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By Amanda Garcia
Beat Reporter

*This version was updated on May 10, 2011*

Associated Students Legislative Council met on May 4 to discuss University of California, Santa Barbara College Republicans’ request for $1,470 to bring speaker David Horowitz to campus.

Many students and AS Legislative Representatives expressed concerns about Horowitz as a campus speaker in the past. During Public Forum, second-year Global Studies major Sophia Armen, along with another student, played a YouTube video to Leg Council of clips of Horowitz’s speech at Brooklyn College December 2010.

In the video, Horowitz says the following statements: “no other people have sunk themselves so low as the Palestinians” as well as “Arabs are racists, Jew haters, and can’t live peacefully with others.”

“This is about student fees, so let the speaker speak for himself,” stated Armen.

Ahmed Mostafa, third-year Political Science major, believed that with the recent rise in “Islamophobia” in the United States due to the killing of Osama bin Laden, having a speaker like Horowitz would only add fuel to racial tension for Muslim students at UCSB.

“As a marginalized individual, I feel my safety is somewhat threatened by bringing this individual to campus,” Mostafa asserted. “I don’t want to subject anyone else to the hate that I’ve experienced.”

A controversy over free speech and the First Amendment also emerged. Katie Lieberknecht, a fourth-year Communication and Feminist Studies major and current Chair of Finance Board, reminded Leg Council that it is illegal to deny someone the right to free speech simply because of the content. Internal Vice-President Jake Elwood, a fourth-year Political Science major, also added that monetary funding for a speaker given by the UC system can’t be denied based on ideology.

“We, as an association, have not denied funding to any speaker this year; there is no precedent,” stated Elwood.

Other Leg Council members like Amanda Berry, a second-year Biology major, wanted to emphasize equality and consistency in allowing all speakers for all campus groups to be allowed funding.

“We follow the legal code in almost everything we do,” Berry added. “I think the amount of people that came in today for this one issue is awesome and they should go to the event and express their ideas.”

But fourth-year Sociology major and Legislative Representative Alfredo Del Cid was not so optimistic about an open dialogue between Horowitz and audience members.

“This speaker is going to do what he always does, which is go on a rant,” said Del Cid.

The first motion to fund College Republicans the full $1,470 for security, lighting, audio and visual recording failed to pass 13-10 since it needed at two-thirds majority.

The second motion to fund $1,100 solely for security for the event, which first passed but was then called for reconsideration by some Legislative Representatives who claimed they did not hear the call to objection or thought the motion proposed wasn’t the final one.

At this point, tensions ran high among Leg Council members and audience members who both opposed and supported funding David Horowitz. When the second motion was called again, this time by roll call where each Leg Rep is individually called on to vote, the motion to allocate $1,100 failed 14-8 without the necessary majority.

“It’s appalling that this passes the first time then fails the second time. That’s embarrassing,” voiced Berry.

“I thought this was a compromise,” said Leg Rep Jason Lopez, a third-year Psychology major. “For people that say no, what’s the compromise?”

After much deliberation, a motion proposed by Lopez to allocate $800 for security passed 17-4-1 with a two-thirds majority.

Steven Begakis, a third-year political science major and President of the College Republicans at UCSB said that the AS allocation would promote a safe dialogue between students during the David Horowitz event.

“I’m happy they funded security, it’s all about keeping students safe,” stated Begakis.

“It promotes the attendance of students with different perspectives on the issue,” added fellow College Republican Matt Borasi, a third-year political science major.

College Republicans will now need to come up with $670 for the rest of the costs, but with allocated AS funding it is more than likely that David Horowitz will speak at UCSB on May 26 at 7p.m. to IV Theater 1.

Currently there are "44 comments" on this Article:

  1. Student says:

    Shame. Completely one sided article in reference to the public forum. There were five College Republicans who stood up for their beliefs and not one quote from them made it into this article, while quotes from those who oppose Horowitz found there way throughout it. Pretty sad reporting.

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  3. Amanda Garcia says:

    my bad, I wrote this article at 1 am and thought I had included the College Republican quotes I had. I’m all for fair and objective representation.

  4. [...] Speaker David Horowitz Causes Controversy at Associated Students, UCSB Students Fear “Islamophobia” 4 May 2011 By Amanda Garcia – Beat Reporter For over 6 hours at Associated Students Legislative Council on May 5, the hot topic of debate was providing $1,470 to the College Republicans at UC Santa Barbara for bringing speaker David Horowitz to campus. Many students and AS Legislative Representatives alike expressed great concern about many controversial statements attributed to Horowitz as a campus speaker in the past. During Public Forum, second-year Global Studies major Sophia Armen, along with another concerned student, played a YouTube video to the audience and Leg Council depicting Horowitz giving a speech filled with racial slurs and accusations at Brooklyn College December 2010. “This is about student fees, so let the speaker speak for himself,” stated Armen. In the video, Horowitz is heard to say the following statements such as “no other people have sunk themselves so low as the Palestinians” as well as “Arabs are racists, Jew haters, and can’t live peacefully with others.” Ahmed Mostafa, third-year Political Science major, believed that with the recent rise in “Islamophobia” in the United States due to the killing of Osama bin Laden, having a speaker like Horowitz would only add fuel to racial negative associations made against Muslim students at UCSB. “As a marginalized individual, I feel my safety is somewhat threatened by bringing this individual to campus,” Mostafa asserted. “I don’t want to subject anyone else to the hate that I’ve experienced.” A controversy over free speech and the First Amendment also emerged. Katie Lieberknecht, a fourth-year Communication and Feminist Studies major and current Chair of Finance Board, reminded Leg Council that it is illegal to deny someone the right to free speech simply because of the content. Internal Vice-President Jake Elwood, a fourth-year Political Science major, also added that monetary funding for a speaker given by the UC system can’t be denied based on ideology. via Speaker David Horowitz Causes Controversy at Associated Students, UCSB Students Fear “Islamophobia…. [...]

  5. Student says:

    Thank you for the apology.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Seriously? College Republicans could do better than this bozo.

  7. Student says:

    So it’s okay for the madman, Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia University, to applause mind you, but many would deny Horowitz his rights to free speech? And I’m sorry, but the killing of Osama Bin Laden did not spur any so called “Islamaphobia” so jump off the bandwagon please. Wouldn’t denying Horowitz to speak be “Horowitzophobia?”

  8. Mona says:

    How stupid can you be, “student”? EVERYONE should have a “phobia’ against a man who evokes racism, hatred, intolerance, and bigotry. WHY THE HELL do Campus Republicans want to spend so much money, time, and energy into bringing so much hatred and ugliness into our campus??? There are so many more credible Republicans out there, but instead, they choose to put all their energy into bringing such an ignorant, racist bigot, just for the sake of attention and controversy. Shame on you guys, you disgust me. AND NO ONE at Columbia University would have applauded for Ahmadinejad if he had said half the things that Horowitz said. Ahmadinejad is a stupid guy, but you are just an ill-informed and ignorant individual if you’re going to compare Ahmadinejad’s lecture in Columbia to what Horowitz said at UCSB three years ago. Students left crying and shaking with anger for his racist rant. Go spend your time doing something positive for the world, like what so many other clubs and organizations at UCSB are doing.

  9. Student says:

    Thanks for calling me “stupid” and “ignorant” Mona. Is this how you label everyone who does not agree with your opinion? Perhaps you should learn to distinguish between your hatred and your sense of social justice. How come Ahmedinejad is a “stupid” man while Horowitz is a “racist,” “bigot,” etc.? Ahmedinejad has openly endorsed the elimination of entire races, and classes of people. Horowitz has not. Did you and your “crying” and “shaking with anger” students consider protesting when Ahmedinejad was announced as a speaker at Columbia? I highly doubt it

  10. If one wishes to speak of “phobia”, one should speak instead of Candor-phobia, the fear of and revulsion toward perfectly legitimate criticisms of Islam.

    Thus Secular Muslims (interested in reform) are left unsupported because most Leftists fear being accused (falsely) of bigotry by jihadists, more than they fear being branded moral cowards for abandoning the defense of human rights.

    http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis

  11. Indignation at UCSB manifests anew a phenomenon noted by Secular Muslims many, many times before: when sensible non-Muslims point out that Islamic jihadists commit acts of violence and justify them by reference to the Qur’an and sharia law, many non-Muslim in academia (aping Muslim apologists for jihad) respond by claiming that those who point out all the sharia-inspired violence are guilty of (alleged) “Islamophobia.” They don’t have a word to say about the actual acts of violence, hatred and Islamo-supremacism committed by the jihadists– naturally, the “real” villains are folks (like Horowitz) who publicly reject and condemn sharia.

    Lan astaslem!

  12. Stop the MSA says:

    A thought experiment: If a student funded group publicly called for the extermination of gays or blacks (instead of Jews as MSA did at UCSD), do you think academia would permit them to continue their student funded activities?

    To ask the question is to anwer it.

    On May 10, 2010, Jumanah Albahri, an ex-officer of the Muslim Student Association (MSA) at the University of California-San Diego (UCSD), admitted during an event put on by Young Americans for Freedom and featuring David Horowitz as a speaker, that she supported a second Holocaust. During the exchange, Albahri also refused to condemn Hamas as a genocidal organization. This chilling Video exchange has by now made headlines around the country.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fSvyv0urTE
    =====
    David Horowitz: “I am a Jew. The head of Hezbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally… For it or against it?”

    Jumanah Albahri: “For it.”
    =====
    Albahri, for all her apparent passion for the Palestinian cause, is blind to her own hypocrisy and ignorance. This is true of most bandwagon Muslim radicals and anti-Israelis. While I doubt the sincerity of Albahri’s “apology,” the sincerity of her pro-genocide comment does not matter. Propagation of genocide has absolutely no place in our society, much less in our schools.

    This is not acceptable, and it will be stopped.

  13. Horowitz is not a conservative, he is a fascist says:

    The Campus Republicans, in order to deflect attention from their divisive speaker, have of course chosen to respond with the usual hysteric drivel about Ahmadinejad and cowardly calls to de-fund the MSA.

    First, if you’re going to pick on religion, do it equally. Otherwise people will be VERY skeptical of your motives. Do you really want to open a Christian Bible and allow us to find page after page of justifications for rape, slavery, patriarchy, and the killing of disobedient children, all commanded by God? You guys (and Horowitz) are desperate to connect Muslim students and college professors to the violence of groups like Hezbollah. But do you condemn the much more massive violence of the U.S. state (drone bombings, torture, CIA extraordinary rendition, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that have claimed hundreds of thousands of innocent lives?) How about that of Israel? NO, you celebrate that violence, as does Horowitz.

    If you’re going to mine the internet for quotes, anyone can do that. What do you have to say about Anne Coulter, another Republican favorite, who says “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity?” I fail to see how her essential message is all that different than that of Horowitz, who tries to be a bit more “slick.”

    Stick to the issue. All your talk of balance and respect for different views is a farce. Horowitz is a RACIST by definition. He is an APOLOGIST for slavery.

    see his “Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks – and Racist Too”
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=24317

    He calls for firing professors he disagrees with, largely for comments they make OUTSIDE of the classroom. He is a major operative with powerful lunatic “friends” like Pat Robertson, who work overtime to deny people their civil rights (oh and claim 9-11 is retribution for the secularization of America.)

    “DESPITE HIS alleged devotion to neutrality in the curriculum, Horowitz has yet to call on any business school to hire a labor leader or the economics department to hire enough Marxist economists to balance out the curriculum. I don’t see him calling for critics of the petroleum industry to be welcomed in UT’s big-oil geology department.

    It is obvious that his attempts to police freedom of thought are aimed at only one small part of the ideological spectrum. He would like nothing more than to see critical progressive faculty lose their jobs–not because we advocate orthodoxy, but because we question his orthodoxy.”
    by UT faculty member Dana Cloud, who Horowitz also tried to go after

    So true. Horowitz is a creep and part of a government agenda to silence dissent against the policies of the United States.

  14. Mona says:

    Hey “Student”….i don’t understand why you keep referring to Ahmadinejad. It is completely irrelevant and doesn’t help any of your arguments to the slightest. The point is, Horowitz is a racist bigot with no credibility or tolerance and thrives on promoting hate. You can keep making up these hypothetical situations in your head like “What would you guys do if Ahmadinejad came here?!?!?” or “Why didn’t you guys protest against Ahmadinejad when he went to Columbia???!”, but quite frankly, that is a pathetic attempt to stray from the issue. You DON’T know our opinions on Ahmadinejad because that isn’t what we are arguing about and you DON’T know what our reaction would be if he came to UCSB because he ISN’T coming, it’s Horowitz that’s coming. I’m sorry that you don’t like Ahmadinejad, but clearly that means you’re just another senseless and ignorant participant of Islamophobia too if you stand for a guy such as Horowitz that promotes such blind hatred towards a race and religion that belongs to the guy you hate so much. Sorry for calling you stupid, but come on, it’s kind of funny. You sound like a 2- year old ranting “well, I don’t like that guy, so that means I have to like that guy, and if you don’t like that guy equally in my hypothetical situation, then well you’re wrong!” do you get how senselss all this is?
    I’m against racism and hatred IN GENERAL, i don’t distinguish between culture, race, or religion, and I’m proud of myself for that. I think it’s a beautiful thing actually. Your support for someone who promotes the antithesis of that obviously shows that you perhaps haven’t matured to that level yet. Hope you can get there someday! Peace. (literally)

  15. Here again (@7:16pm) we find a near perfect specimen of Candorphobia.

    Horowitz is an ANTI-racist. The proof is in “Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks– and Racist Too”
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=24317

    But this smear campaign is a tried and true tactic of the Left: intellectually bankrupt as it is, it hopes to silence its critics, rather than dealing with them on the level of ideas. They can’t answer us, so they hope to discredit us. Leftists, as well as apologists for Islamo-supremacism, label their opponents “hatemongers” and “bigots,” hoping thereby to make people of good will turn away from their message.

    In reality, Horowitz is dedicated to the defense of human rights for all people against those who would impose Islamic (sharia) law, with its institutionalized discrimination against women and religious minorities, over both Muslim and non-Muslim societies. There is no “hatred” in this, except when Horowitz reports the words of hatred and supremacism of the jihadists. We are trying to raise awareness of the nature, extent, and goals of the global jihad, which threatens everyone who loves and cherishes freedom and the equality of rights of all people before the law.

    And so, we are going to fight this censorship. Wherever you are today, know this: we will not be vilified and silenced, when we are telling the truth.

  16. The St. Petersburg Declaration

    We are secular Muslims, and secular persons of Muslim societies. We are believers, doubters, and unbelievers, brought together by a great struggle, not between the West and Islam, but between the free and the unfree.

    We affirm the inviolable freedom of the individual conscience. We believe in the equality of all human persons.

    We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights.

    We find traditions of liberty, rationality, and tolerance in the rich histories of pre-Islamic and Islamic societies. These values do not belong to the West or the East; they are the common moral heritage of humankind.

    We see no colonialism, racism, or so-called “Islamaphobia” in submitting Islamic practices to criticism or condemnation when they violate human reason or rights.

    We call on the governments of the world to

    reject Sharia law, fatwa courts, clerical rule, and state-sanctioned religion in all their forms; oppose all penalties for blasphemy and apostasy, in accordance with Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human rights;
    eliminate practices, such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage, that further the oppression of women;
    protect sexual and gender minorities from persecution and violence;
    reform sectarian education that teaches intolerance and bigotry towards non-Muslims;
    and foster an open public sphere in which all matters may be discussed without coercion or intimidation.
    We demand the release of Islam from its captivity to the totalitarian ambitions of power-hungry men and the rigid strictures of orthodoxy.

    We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.

    We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine;

    to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha’is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens;

    and to nonbelievers: we defend your unqualified liberty to question and dissent.

    Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or the Chosen People, we are all members of the community of conscience, the people who must choose for themselves.

    Endorsed by:

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    Magdi Allam
    Mithal Al-Alusi
    Shaker Al-Nabulsi
    Nonie Darwish
    Afshin Ellian
    Tawfik Hamid
    Shahriar Kabir
    Hasan Mahmud
    Wafa Sultan
    Amir Taheri
    Ibn Warraq
    Manda Zand Ervin
    Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

  17. Mona says:

    Anti-Candorphobia…..in all honesty, what do YOU even know about Muslim societies and their religion and culture??? Have you ever even been to the Middle East?? Do you even know what jihad is? If you answer back that jihad is “war against infidels”….i strongly suggest you first and foremost educate yourself on what you so blindly hate. Do you even know where woman discrimination in the Middle East came from? Don’t speak for a population that you don’t understand.
    I have a question for you. Name me one person who is threatening your American culture and freedoms. Even Osama bin Laden, truly a madman, never even cared about the American culture. His hatred was all towards American military occupation in the Middle East. You have to acknowledge your paranoia here; no one is conducting a global jihad against you. (I don’t blame you though, just like children, you’re probably susceptible to any “fear factor” that the media imposes on you). Although I’m sure it must be quite flattering to make-believe that every Muslim in the world is out to get you.
    I belong to no party and I am not apart of a leftist conspiracy campaign to silence my opposers. Once again, you are exposing a tendency you have of extreme paranoia and immaturity. The only thing I am against is hate campaigns. Maybe you haven’t even heard Horowitz talk, which I’m assuming is the only explanation for your redundant ignorance, but no question about it, Horowtiz promotes hate for a entire group of people who have no affiliations with the .0001% of the people in the world who actually do hate American culture and freedoms and want to stop it.
    I can’t make this clear enough. Muslims and Middle Easterners are not trying to thwart your way of life. Look at all the beautiful revolutions and social movements that are uprising in the Middle-East, these people love freedom just as any other citizen of the world does. I suggest that instead of sitting on your computer scheming how their is a global jihad being conducted against you, you go find something more worthwhile to do.

  18. Harry Bergeron says:

    Mona wonders what we know about Muslim history. Quick quiz-what were Muslims doing in
    640? Attacked Babylon
    641? Conquered Alexandria, burned all the books in the Great Library
    652-734 Constant attacks on Sicily
    in 700? Complete military conquest of North Africa
    in 722? Military conquest of Spain
    in 731? Military conquest of Toulon, Toulouse and Bordeaux, in France
    in 732? Finally defeated on their way to Paris at the Battle of Poitier
    in 902? Final conquest of Sicily
    in 1389? Attacked and conquered Kosovo
    in 1453? Conquered the City/State of Constantinople
    in 1479? Attacked Hungary
    in 1529? Attacking and besieging Vienna
    in 1571? Navy defeated at Lepanto after ruling the Mediterranean for 1000 years.
    in 1683? Attacking and besieging Vienna. Again
    in 1714 declared war on Venice, attacked Corfu
    in 1816 Massacred 200 fishermen from Sardinaia, Corsic and Sicily
    in 1816 were forced to release 3,000 European slaves they had taken by piracy
    In World War 1 Allied with the Germans
    in World War 2 Allied with the Nazis
    Will Mona recognize this as the aggressive history of Islam?
    Harry Bergeron

  19. Learning New Things says:

    Harry you’re timeline is wrong. The library of Alexandria was not burnt down by Muslims, it was burnt down by Julius Caeser (have you heard of him? I don’t think he was part of that history of aggression that you speak of)

    Also how could Islam, the religion, ally with anyone? I didn’t know Islam was a nation that could do that. That’s so weird! Thank you so much for the information, now that I know that Islam is a nation.

    I also am highly surprised that Islam can also attack physically. As your timeline states Islam attacked many a place. I bet Islam has one hell of a punch!

    We can have a mile long list of history of aggression of Christians, it isn’t ISLAM that is the aggressor. Why you so dumb?

  20. Don't trust someone who has been married 4 times says:

    David Horowitz has married 4 times. Any person who has had multiple wives is truly someone who disrespects women. In America, we do not support this. Subjugating multiple women to this man who has no respect for the sanctity of marriage is both sacrilegious and un-American. It is demeaning and antithetical to our American values of freedom of equality. The first amendment and the rest of the constitution does not allow for the discrimination of these peoples.

    Also, David Horowitz is a right-wing ultra-national Establishment-clause-violating anti-Semit. I have heard this man talk before and all I hear is him saying is that not all Muslims are bad, but Islam is a violent religion. By hating on majority of Muslim Arabs on the basis of their rooted ethnic background, culture, and/or religion, Horowitz does not contribute to informative and useful debate.

    On the basis that this man is truly against Semites and their lifestyles, this man should be revoked from preaching his doctrine.

    In the end, his preaching does more injustice to the peace-loving Semitic fabric that has taken centuries to reach.

    I also think that this man should never get tenure.

    I rest my case.

  21. Horowitz is not a conservative, he is a fascist says:

    Nice try, Anti-Candorphobia. But in fact, Horowitz IS a racist. You have made yourself a perfect teacher by negative example. Allow me to prove this to you.

    For starters, you think his “10 Reasons Why Reparations is a Bad Idea…” is ANTI-RACIST??! He might as well argue slavery was GOOD for black slaves and their descendants, and then you say, “Look, he’s concerned about what’s good for black people!” This is essentially what he has done, and what you’re doing right now. Sorry, you might get over on some Tea Partiers with this crap, but not on a university campus where most people have at least a basic sense of the ongoing discrimination faced by African Americans and other people of color in this country.

    Don’t make us laugh and say nobody wants to debate Horowitz. He has been debated. He has been refuted. Many times. He is not interested in facts. Why would he proclaim himself a “battering ram” if he was? He’s still around because wealthy conservative people and government operatives fund him and find him useful. He is for harassing, silencing and firing people who disagree with him. We’re not gonna put up with this bullshit one bit on this campus or anywhere, just to let you know. Yes, I am using my 1st Amendment right to call his agenda by the expletive that it is: bullshit.

    By the way, the fact that you and Horowitz have to couch your arguments in traditional liberal-leftist rhetoric (anti-racism, balance, tolerance) only demonstrates the popularity of these views, the bankruptcy of your own views, and a total lack of creativity and political imagination of your own. You can’t even get over on this campus unless you try to SOUND like a progressive! Isn’t that pathetic?

    I really want to keep pursuing this anti-racist thing. If Horowitz were a true anti-racist, he would offer his services to the community. The fact is nobody in the anti-racist movement asked for this idiot’s patronizing help. Why did he print this stupid “10 reasons” piece in college newspapers? Was it to prove to the world that he’s an anti racist? like “look at me, I’m David Horowitz, I’m an ‘anti racist’, so now you can’t accuse me of racism!’ ” As smooth as he talks, he is aligned with people who are working to destroy the gains of the civil rights movement. So why doesn’t he just come out and say that? Because it would sound too much like the KKK and be too unpopular. So he pretends he’s concerned for Black people and even Muslims (well, only the ones who are ‘loyal’). All while he flirts with “white nationalists” on the extreme right. It’s called politics. He is a coward. How stupid do you think we are? How is this ‘anti racist’ doing these days gaining allies among people of color? He must be working so very hard on that, with your help, I presume…

    Horowitz claims “Reparations to African-Americans have already been paid” in the form of “welfare benefits and racial preferences” for Black people. I dare him to go into the housing projects of Watts or Harlem and try to give that speech. He’d better have more than the two little security officers that AS funded for you guys. He has a right to say it, but I doubt the people for whom this ‘anti-racist’ feigns so much concern would greet him with polite nods and applause. “Hey, you’re living in a miserable slum and have little chance of getting real work, your kids go to schools that are like prisons, police routinely stop, frisk and beat people in your community, 1 in every 9 young black men is in the American gulag [prison system], but stop complaining, America has ‘given you freedom’ [his exact quote] and reparations!”

    You write “Horowitz is dedicated to the defense of human rights for all people against those who would impose Islamic (sharia) law, with its institutionalized discrimination against women and religious minorities, over both Muslim and non-Muslim societies.” Wow look at that! Horowitz the freedom fighter, and it’s the left who won’t deal with his profound ideas and wants to silence him!!! hahaha

    Tell me, when David Horowitz was busy cheerleading for the fascist Contras in Nicaragua, with a proven track record of egregious torture and massacres of civilians, where was all his tolerance for human rights? He never had it. For most of his adult “career” he has been committed to supporting the most immoral U.S. foreign policies with an uncanny fervor. You know as well as we do that meant supporting fascism and torture all over the third world, don’t even try to deny it when the CIA and the U.S. government have even admitted to it. Easy for him to support Contra death squads as a writer and lecturer when he’s basically on a government payroll. Again, what cowardice.

    I ask you, if he is so against (Islamic) fundamentalism, WHY was he walking around in the 80s with a shirt that said “Support Afghan Freedom Fighters” with a picture of a Mujahaden on it?? (proof: http://www.defendcriticalthinking.info/) Because this asshole has been fiercely committed to being an intellectual hitman for U.S. foreign policy for decades. In the 80s that meant supporting the most right wing, most hateful, most backward elements of Middle Eastern societies—applauding the U.S. for giving them arms and training to attack not only the Soviet troops in Afghanistan, but the left and secular people within these very Middle Eastern societies. And today, he’s flip-flopped to claim he’s the number one voice against fundamentalism and terrorism! That’s of course after he flipped from Marxism in the 60s! Tell me, is your invited speaker a man with principles of his own, or just a big faker trying to tailor his views to what’s popular at any given time?!?!

    And do you ever wonder how the so-called jihadis got so powerful? I would recommend you sit down with “Devil’s Game: How the U.S. Helped Unleash Islamic Fundamentalism” by Robert Dreyfuss who writes for Rolling Stone. Thank David Horowitz for supporting these “jihadis”, not me, not the MSAs and not the left. The U.S. government was doing that LONG before Horowitz tried to go after “islamo fascism.”

    Again, your hilarious quote: “Horowitz is dedicated to the defense of human rights for all people against those who would impose Islamic (sharia) law, with its institutionalized discrimination against women and religious minorities, over both Muslim and non-Muslim societies.” If that’s true then WHY is he running around with modern American Taliban like Pat Robertson, claiming Robertson has done good work for the Horowitzian cause? I call Pat Robertson an American Taliban because his views are just as fundamentalist, hateful and misogynist as the Taliban’s, except Robertson is a Christian fundamentalist Protestant with major influence within the U.S. power structure. The university Robertson helped found, Regents, is a hotbed of anti-semitism and hostility to gay rights. So much for the rights of women to abortion and for the rights of gays to marry. Is that the kind of equality the College Republicans are about? Is Horowitz going to go on a speaking tour to aggressively fight for gay marriage? Not. Most of the “dangerous professors” he targets are people who truly support democratic rights for religious and sexual minorities. So if you can’t keep from lying and misrepresenting reality, just shut up and get lost.

    You say your goal is to educate us about the dangers of “global jihad.” (are the UCSB professors Horowitz names in his idiotic book jihadis with an army? aaaahh I bet you’re sooooo terrified of 81-year old Dr. Richard Falk! The most these “terrorist” professors can probably do to harm your “freedom” is give you a failing grade, which you would deserve because you are so utterly and proudly ignorant.)

    So you want to educate us. But you know, Anti-Candorphobia, the vast majority of people on this campus are aware of, and oppose, what you call global jihad! It’s a moot point. Stop trying to force confessions and loyalty oaths from student organizations. Horowitz and the far right he shills for would not pass muster on any of the standards you outrageously want to apply to MSAs. Because the U.S. government itself under Reagan had a FAR CLOSER relationship to Islamic terrorists (or “freedom fighters,” in Horowitz’s own words) than WE EVER DID! Oh and his buddy Pat Robertson actively raised funds for the Contras, and (I wouldn’t doubt) the Mujahedin.

    How arrogantly you demand that the MSA and others declare their allegiance on your terms! Ok, two can play that game. Let’s roll through every U.S.-backed coup and war crime of the last 50 years and see if you and Horowitz are for it or against it, then we’ll really see where the terrorist sympathizers and fascists are, shall we? But of course, when the victims are not “Americans”, it’s all righteous, isn’t it? Is this not the supremacist logic that was at play during the Holocaust? We, the opponents of David Horowitz, categorically reject this exclusivist and hyper-nationalist logic, while YOU are very willing to make selective use of it.

    YOU and HOROWITZ are not the solution to “global jihad.” You are the mirror opposite. The flipside of the same idiocy and intolerance. You and the religious right in the Middle East deserve each other. You feed off of fighting each other. Your illegitimate wars for empire, and your support for the blatantly colonialist atrocities and war crimes of the Israeli state, make the world FAR more unstable than a few incoherent fundamentalists. Your agenda threatens the rights of most people in this country: social services like education (being slashed thanks to Wall St. and your record deficit WAR spending), gay people, people of color, rational thinkers, “dangerous” professors, millions of homeowners (the foreclosure and mortgage crises), etc. Not to mention the people who are underneath the bombs you and Horowitz justify in the name of my safety, most of which are shredding the bodies of civilians and children in places like Pakistan.

    You go to war against “islamo-supremacism” (what the hell is that?) in the name of “freedom and the equality of rights of all people before the law.” How quaint, the Campus Republicans now support all these nice liberal things. If this is where you and Horowitz truly stand, then get to to work opposing America’s prison-industrial complex, which LEADS THE WORLD in the rate of human beings incarcerated (2.3 million people behind bars in your great land of freedom!!!) If you’re for equality of rights, help us work for gay marriage, to defend abortion rights, and to stop the illegal and fascistic practices of the extraordinary rendition and torture that have been codified during the “war on terror.” Work against the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act if you’re for the conservative ideal of “small and limited government” let alone “equality of rights.” If you’re for living in a limited republic, not a fortress or an empire, dismantle the 700+ military bases around the world and stop militarizing the U.S. Mexico border. Can’t commit to that? Oh, didn’t think so. They are all things that Horowitz defends.

    If you claim I am putting words in your mouth I am simply going by the Republican Party platform and the mouth of David Horowitz. If you have sharp differences with the overall direction of Republican ideology at this time, or Horowitz’s other positions (I doubt it), please make them clear.

  22. Oh noes! says:

    “Obama Drone Airstrike Kills Seven Jihadis in Pakistan”
    http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/12/us-drone-strike-kills-five-in-n-waziristan.html

    Barry walks warily down the street,
    with his brim pulled way down low…

  23. Anti-candorphobia says:

    I’ve attempted to reply, but the gatekeepers here don’t allow rebuttal… thus proving my points.

    The fear of candor is palpable.

  24. Horowitz is not a conservative, he is a fascist says:

    Huh? “The gatekeepers don’t allow rebuttal?” Are you trying to make a joke? You posted on May 16, didn’t you?

    Are you accusing the BL of censoring your reply? Sorry to bruise your ego but I doubt they have the time or interest to do such a thing. If the website really does have a strange conspiracy to prevent you from posting, I would fight that policy.

    You forfeited posting a rebuttal. Instead, you chose to whine. And then it “proves your points”? Brilliant. Mr Horowitz, can you please teach your dear little campus friends how to engage in a debate and not get creamed?! There is far more candor and substance in our posts than your pathetic grandstanding.

    You know, you and Horowitz should stop promoting the idea that conservatives are censored and discriminated against. Besides being laughable, it only serves to cast you as weak victims. Perhaps all these narratives of conservatives being victims are stunting your psychology with an inferiority complex. And that’s why you can’t get hired for those lucrative academic jobs in the humanities I know you want. Plus we all know that the hiring practices of Fox News and the energy lobby are all are biased in favor of Marxists, environmentalists and postcolonial theorists, right? Sigh. What a raw deal these conservatives are getting!

    Seriously, if Horowitz says talking about discrimination against African Americans promotes their victimization, then why he does he keep going on about the alleged victimization of conservatives?! Especially since, giving your superior “candor” and debating techniques, clearly you deserve preferential treatment!

  25. Ganesha akbar! says:

    Fact: I replied no less than 3 times and your gatekeepers blocked the post.

    Yep. Free speech for thee… but not for me.

    The stench of your community’s Candorphobia has reached mighty Ganesha’s trunk.

    Fear the karma!

  26. It appears the gatekeepers are temporarily asleep at the wheel. Perhaps I can shine a tiny ray of truth under their radar? Worth a shot.

    [idiotarian lied: "The library of Alexandria was not burnt down by Muslims"]

    In 642AD, Alexandria surrendered to Amrou, the Islamic general leading the armies of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad. Long one of the most important cities of the ancient world and capital of Byzantine Egypt, Alexandria surrendered only after a long siege and attempts to rescue the city by the Byzantines. On the orders of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad, the entire collection of books (except for the works of Aristotle) stored at the Library of Alexandria were removed and used as fuel to heat water for the city’s public baths.

    [Try harder to avoid parroting taqiyya.]

  27. Horowitz is a “fascist”? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Fascism is Leftist.

    But what happened? Is Soros all out of punch and pie, progressives?

    Why isn’t Michael Moore stalking Barry over his slaughter of (un-Mirandized!) teenage coastguard volunteers in Somalia? The two year anniversary of The Obamateur’s sniper spree against (un-Mirandized) Somali teen civilians was last month.

    Why isn’t billionaire progressive George Soros financing any unhinged Leftist rent-a-mob rallies against The Obamateur’s summary execution of (un-Mirandized!) civilians by Reaper drone airstrikes in Pakistan? Afterall, The Obamateur’s tactics were clearly more “violent” than Mubarak’s secret police beatings; or our patriotic moistening of KSM at Gitmo. The Obamateur’s policy to use Reaper drones to target (un-Mirandized!) civilians has spiked without a peep. Get busy, progressives.

    Soros should pay Michael Moron to film Rev. Wright burning a Koran every day until The Obamateur regime flees the country.

    *Rage against the machine, progressive-fascists!*

  28. For those who wish to explore the subject of Leftist-fascism in greater depth, a useful recent resource would be a book by an expert on Italian Fascism: “The Faces of Janus: Marxism and Fascism in the 20th Century”, by A. James Gregor.
    http://www.amazon.com/Faces-Janus-Marxism-Fascism-Twentieth/dp/0300106025

    Gregor exhaustively demonstrates that Fascism and Nazism modelled their methods on the atheistic Marxism of Lenin and Stalin; and that the Fascist idea of adding nationalism to socialism was later taken up by Stalin and Mao— so that (in the end) Fascism and Communism were merely twin atheistic Marxist sects. Thus, during the era of their big confrontation, Soviet Russia and Maoist China were perfectly correct in accusing one-another of being “fascists.”

    100s of millions of innocent corpses don’t lie. That’s one big steaming pile left in history’s living room. Own it, “progressives.”

  29. Smear-mongers have the audacity to climb up on their hind legs and howl about (alleged) “fascism” after their pro-jihadist bedfellows spent the last decade goose-stepping through America’s streets at their kristallnaght-style gutter riots (masquerading as “peace” protests).

    Patriotic Americans are encourage to Enter the “Leftist-fascist Hall of Shame” and remember what Leftist-fascism in America looks like.
    http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

    So progressive!

  30. Horowitz is an ANTI-racist. For a more scholarly discussion of his anti-racist views, see “Hating Whitey: And Other Progressive Causes” @
    http://www.amazon.com/Hating-Whitey-Other-Progressive-Causes/dp/189062621X

    But this smear campaign is a tried and true tactic of the Left: intellectually bankrupt as it is, it hopes to silence its critics, rather than dealing with them on the level of ideas. They can’t answer us, so they hope to discredit us. Leftists, as well as apologists for Islamo-supremacism, label their opponents “hatemongers” and “bigots,” hoping thereby to make people of good will turn away from their message.

    In reality, Horowitz is dedicated to the defense of human rights for all people against those who would impose Islamic (sharia) law, with its institutionalized discrimination against women and religious minorities, over both Muslim and non-Muslim societies. There is no “hatred” in this, except when Horowitz reports the words of hatred and supremacism of the jihadists. We are trying to raise awareness of the nature, extent, and goals of the global jihad, which threatens everyone who loves and cherishes freedom and the equality of rights of all people before the law.

    And so, we are going to fight this censorship. Wherever you are today, know this: we will not be vilified and silenced, when we are telling the truth.

  31. the silence is deafening says:

    Once again, if your guy is such a crusader against Sharia law, why was he their enthusiastic backer in the 80s? He is kind of a latecomer to the game of opposing fundamentalism (most leftists opposed this long before him) and he doesn’t have any words of warning against Christian Fundamentalists who hold power in THIS country—people who also want to tear up the Constitution and institute religious rule. No, he cultivates them as a pathetic support base. SO MUCH FOR TOLERANCE. Your silence on the Pat Robertson question and why Horowitz only speaks for gay rights in Israel, but not gay marriage in the U.S., speaks volumes.

    “Bukhari” seems to be quite the ancient history buff, but let’s talk current events, like the 1980s. Who built up many of today’s Islamic fundamentalists with arms and funds to the point that they have become such a menace: the U.S. government especially under Reagan (through the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabia—you know, that country that practices SHARIA law with the support of every U.S. administration) or a couple of student groups?

    You conservatives should know that government scapegoats its own people for the crimes that the government initiated in the first place. So why aren’t you getting it by now?

    While progressives were supporting the struggle against South African apartheid, Horowitz cut his teeth in making “freedom fighters” out of the same “jihadis” he cynically exploits today, only today he has changed his tune. Again: man of principles, or waffling hypocrite who craves power and attention?

    “I ask you, if he is so against (Islamic) fundamentalism, WHY was he walking around in the 80s with a shirt that said ‘Support Afghan Freedom Fighters’ with a picture of a Mujahaden on it?? (proof: http://www.defendcriticalthinking.info/)”

    How quickly you seem to have taken up the anti-imperialist cause now that a black Democrat is doing the bombing! Do you oppose drone bombings or not? I do, no matter who does them. They and the highly violent full-scale invasion and occupation of Iraq, based on lies and hype, are part of the SAME “war on terror” package. But I didn’t see you at the protests against the Afghanistan and Pakistan wars. Hmmm…

    Torture through waterboarding, which you sickeningly call “patriotic moistening,” and holding people indefinitely without charges in Guantanamo and other secret prisons and CIA black sites around the world, is also part of that same war on terror that Obama’s drones are part of.

    Fascism is the merging of state and corporate power. Fascism justifies extreme executive power and throws out democratic rights (habeas corpus, for example) in the name of permanent national emergency. Fascism works in concert with traditional elites. It scapegoats religious and ethnic minorities (today: Muslims and Mexicans, for shorthand).

    “100’s of millions of corpses?” wow what scholarship! tell you what, learn how to apply those brilliant calculations to finding the WMD, and to chronicling every illegal and violent U.S.-backed coup of the past half-century. Calculate how much the military industrial complex has bankrupted this country and thus slashed your own children’s future. Add up how many millions die every year of preventable causes like starvation, lack of clean water, poor health, and pollution in countries whose governments the U.S. props up against the aspirations of their people. Then we can compare notes and see who enables and cheerleads for fascism.

  32. Oh noes! says:

    [Iditoarian drooled: "Do you oppose drone bombings or not? I do, no matter who does them."]

    LMAO! Horowitz and Robertson have bombed nobody– unlike your Progressive_in_Chief.

    BREAKING: Obama drone kills 7 (un-Mirandized!) civilians in Pakistan
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/174315/drone-strike-kills-6-in-north-waziristan/

    Show some moral consistency… condemn your Obamateur.

    *crickets chirp*

  33. Precious moments says:

    BREAKING: Freedom Fighters protest The Obamateur
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1390428/Anjem-Choudary-Obama-legitimate-target-extremists.html

    Muslim activists descended on Downing Street today in protest at Barack Obama’s state visit to London.

    As the president met David Cameron in Whitehall, an angry crowd of burka clad women as well as protesters from Muslims Against Crusades gathered on the streets outside.

    They were joined by a number of prominent campaigners, including Anjem Choudary.The radical cleric said that President Obama has made himself a ‘legitimate target’ for Muslim extremists after the killing of Osama bin Laden.

    He called for Mr Obama to be dragged before a sharia court over his role in the war in Afghanistan.

    …He said: ‘Just like Osama Bin Laden is the number one enemy for the west, Obama is for Muslims.

    ‘He is a war criminal, it goes without saying. He has slain more Muslims than even his predecessor George Bush and has overseen the escalation of the war on Islam.

    ‘He must be arrested and face a sharia court for his crimes.’

    [*Islamo-Fascist Cheerleaders Unite!*]

  34. derp says:

    While I agree wholeheartedly with Secular Muslims’ open-minded attitude, David Horowitz can hardly claim to espouse those same views. He’s inflammatory just for the sake of being inflammatory, to the point that it’s almost comical. Occasionally he makes a good, grounded argument, but all too often he immediately follows it with some crazy bullshit. There are no grounds for the school to deny the speaker funds on the basis of his ideology, but I do question the wisdom of the Campus Republicans’ decision to pick him as a speaker. There are far more right-wing speakers that actually know what the hell they’re talking about.

    I see most of the comments are, unsurprisingly, entertaining political theater (Obama puns are still a thing, I see) that has long lost sight of the original topic. I look forward to hearing about you young politicians being predictably loud and useless in Washington a few years down the line.

  35. derp says:

    ^ah, by “far more” I meant “many more”. Quantity, not quality.

  36. Dude abides says:

    [derp snarked: "He’s inflammatory just for the sake of being inflammatory"]

    If true, Derp should have no trouble demonstrating that point with examples. Flinging gratuitous assertions (ad hominem) into the ether adds nothing to the discussion.

    See also, the Dude;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

  37. RJ Miller says:

    Goodness…

    I cannot say I find Horowitz to be nearly as calm on the issues as he could be but here I am reminded once again of how the left proclaims itself to be a champion of free speech as long as everyone else is excluded from having the same benefit.

    And seriously? Horowitz a “fascist?”

    Do people still mindlessly throw those smears around not knowing what they mean or can other opinions be that offensive?

    And no, I am not an “Islamophobe;” if an attack on the scale of 9/11 ever happened again I would not use that to judge all Muslims.

    If anything I would be part of the few saying with exclamation, “They did it! They finally did it!!!”

  38. Horowitz says the following statements: “no other people have sunk themselves so low as the Palestinians” as well as “Arabs are racists, Jew haters, and can’t live peacefully with others.”

  39. Kristi says:

    When Horowitz came to UC Berkeley, he demanded an absolutely ridiculous level of security, almost as if to bolster his outlaw image. A member of the young republicans performed a citizens’ arrest on a graduate student who walked by outside and yelled a joke about their metal detectors, and they put the student in jail under false pretenses (this grad student is now a UC professor). At the end of his talk, Horowitz stomped off stage early when someone asked whether the first amendment requires that newspapers accept any paid advertisement that is submitted. He sort of has a screw loose.

  40. Aaron says:

    No wonder America is collapsing. Reading this from Australia, it would be totally inconceivable to me that someone with these views would be asked to speak at our (or any) university. We used to look up to your country, but it is now full of bigotry that now uses the guise of “freedom of speech” to completely put aside responsibility, considering it does not back this so-called freedom up with EQUALITY. Your country is horrid.

  41. The academe is supposed to be a place where students are taught to respect one another. There is simply no debate in this. Letting in someone who had prejudice is what I call “not a good idea”. This will only spark discrimination and the university is supposed to be the melting pot of cultures and interests that would promote progress. Let’s not instill unfairness which is already ruining our employment system.

  42. i would prefer not to enter any religions during a seminar or a talk because you get all types of students in the seminars and speaking against or for would create a rift . so better avoid it
    but a nice blog buddy

  43. Thanks indeed for the interesting post. What are we learning from the leaders in our learning institutes?
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  44. Wendy Hartford says:

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